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uh , hey , so thanks for bringing me

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down , Letting me have an opportunity

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to talk to our booms . I'll get into

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who I am and all that jazz in a second .

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But I'll just start off with one I wore

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the wrong uniform . I get that . Now I

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see a couple of two pieces , but

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everyone here is a green person , a

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green flights where , so I'll switch

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out next time . Uh , and two . Thanks

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for letting me be part of boom

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symposium for getting educated on , on

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booms in particular and then also on

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the math world . I a little bit of my

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background . I grew up mostly in the

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caf world . So my exposure , the

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mobility operations are , is somewhat

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limited . You'll see the team and I

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have some good reps out there that

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helped me to make sure I don't go too

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far off track . I don't know how to be .

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I don't think I talk over the airplane

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engine . It could happen . Ah , okay .

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But you'll see the team in a sec a

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little bit about myself . So I , I've

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been flying for 22 years . This is all

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I've done . This is everything and

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aviation in my life . So I identify

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like you guys do with , with everything

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airplane . I started my career as a one ,

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a four . I have a new york accent .

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Let's get that out . So please make fun

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of it . Just laugh . It's okay . Uh ,

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and I talked really fast . You have to

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listen really fast , which is

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uncomfortable , but I started as a one ,

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a four on a wax . I was a scope dopes

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or surveillance guy for a few years and

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then I went to go fly airplanes that we

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don't talk about . And I did

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surveillance on those airplanes . After

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doing that for a few years , I became a

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one year zero a sensor operator and I

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taught at the center operators school

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In San Atone , which was weird because

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I did that before going to fly since as

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an MQ nine sensor operator . And then I

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went to preach , I did that for about

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three years and then I left the flying

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World and became a sort of in the

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functional manager business . So from

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creature , I went to a C . C to be the

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C E A match come functional manager .

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Uh , then the commandante veracruz

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Center of Excellence and of theO's here

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somewhere hiding , which was an awesome

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opportunity . And then I've been in the

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seat as the CFM for a year uh , when I

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was in your shoes , I definitely didn't

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know what the heck of CFM was or what

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the CFM did . So before I get into what

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I do and what I , what I , what I ,

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what I do , let me start by saying one

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thanks and and truly thanks for our T

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code instructors who are making the

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magic happen , Making new new new

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students . We would fall apart without

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a healthy ft . You , we have examples

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of that in the flying world where we

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have unhealthy FC us falling apart

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Right and community falling apart . So

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thanks for every student . So do you

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fly writing great sheets or Tim G teams

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and you're like , Oh , same mistakes .

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I get it . Thanks for all the hard work

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with 46 for the dudes and dude that's

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out there actually flying the missions

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around the world . The thing is , this

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is real . I get to walk around the

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pentagon . I'm privileged to be the C E

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A that represents 15,486 aviators and I

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fly a desk and I fly , I flew a desk at

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C O E and I flew a desk at A CC . So my

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days of having a format in my FB F that

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mattered are long gone right , but at

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the pentagon I get to represent all of

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you to our general officers ,

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particularly a three where I worked , I

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worked for Lieutenant General Costello ,

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who's the Director of the Deputy Chief

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of Staff for operations and and I have

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a team . There they go , these are all

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the reps up there , we do not have a

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boom operator there , we have a load

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master who does the care and feeding of

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the boom force . But you will be happy

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to know that that is changing in the

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next 2-3 months . We're waiting for a

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reservist to turn over and I'm going to

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ask for a reservist , that's my next

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turn next position turning over , I'm

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looking for KC- 46 boom and so we're

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gonna get to that . I have some boom

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presence on the staff . We do have

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booms on the staff . Just not on my

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team . All right . So this is the CFM

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team . You can see who's up there . Uh ,

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the one off eight are a little bit

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different . I don't know if you guys

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ever worked with one of the eight , if

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you you have , you know that just by

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working with them they're a little bit

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different . They have their own CFm but

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her and I worked very closely together

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make sure we make smart aircrew

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decisions . Usually the rest of the

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family that we got a guardsman who

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represents us and e pilots , the

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sensors and the pilots Andy phillips is

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our mobility guy . He comes from C

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seventeen's . He represents loads and

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booms . Chris captains are ones in our

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nines , he tells me that you can't be a

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smiler , She had beautiful hair so

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that's never gonna happen for me . Uh ,

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Sarah Howard does our 18 threes , Jason

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corn Houser does our skip clips , clips ,

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our flight attendant and Jason corn

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Houser does our special program of

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special projects and this is the team

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up there that represents sort of where

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we go as a community . I share their

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names with you because what I don't

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want the community think is it's just a

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bunch of people like aren't flyers

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making flying decisions , they all come

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from flying background and have

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thousands of hours and experience and

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deployments and they all sort of shape

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where we go as a flying family . So a

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little bit about what we do as a team .

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Uh , you guys have been in the car . So

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you guys have family , you have kids

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screaming , your wife doesn't know what

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you're gonna order through the drive

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thru that's my wife . Uh , and you're

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just kind of figuring life out . We do

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some of that right ? We do , we deal

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with the today's problem . What's

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happening in the car ? We deal with

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what's about to happen outside the car

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in the short range called it the next

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two years where headlights are aiming .

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Right ? So inside the car would be sort

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of are very simple problems . Things we

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know we have to work with through and

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things . We know we have the leverage

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we have to pull to keep the force

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healthy outside the car is a little bit

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about where is the community going ?

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What's next in the next two years with

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our big challenge and headaches , right ?

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How we sustain ft us , What's the next

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technology coming online and so on That .

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Those are probably are complex problems

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are complicated problems . But then

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really far down the road are complex

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problems and those are things that we

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have no idea what the gotchas are . We

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have no idea how to forecast those

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gotchas and we have to sort of draw

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draft plans to how we're gonna attack

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the next two to maybe 15 years of

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aviation from where we sit as aviators

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and enlisted aviators . What we're

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gonna talk about for the next 2030

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minutes and I can talk fast . I'll get

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through them rules of engagement team .

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I'm an air crew guy like anyone else .

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So if you see an acronym or if I say

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something that's goofy and you just

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don't like it , throw your hand up and

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let's talk about it . I would rather

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clear the question up right then and

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there then wait till the end and you

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just like , what the heck was that that

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dude talking about from the pentagon .

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Alright , so just raise the , let's

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let's throw the flag out there . What

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we're gonna talk about is in those

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stages , what's happening sort of right

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now today's issues as a family , what

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we're doing the next two years to get

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ready and then the sort of two years to

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the 15 year point where we're going uh

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that's gonna I'm gonna ask you guys to

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sort of detached from what you know

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today because when we talk 15 years

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from now none of us have been airman

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who joined at this point . These are

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airmen who aren't even in the air force

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yet . So that 15 year plan is gonna

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look a little bit different . Little

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bit weird for us but but I need you to

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know about it because it's what we're

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talking about it . That's what we're

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talking about . I'll set the stage with

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our force health . We are healthy and

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in all my years of function , I've been

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a function manager for seven years and

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seven years . I've never seen these

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slides on the active side , The right

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hand side look that green . All right .

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We are fat . Uh There's a number of

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reasons for that . Uh some of the more

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obvious reasons we've had , we've had

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really good production . We've managed

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to stay open through Covid reduced ,

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but we stood training through Covid and

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thank all the trainers out there and

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the squadrons for absorbing our airmen .

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Right ? So that's directly tied to

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national security . We kept flying . Uh

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We also slowed down our separations or

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our attrition . Alright . In fact ,

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with the exception of the flight

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attendant career field , every single

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career field missed its program

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nutrition . We kept more airmen that we

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were supposed to alright . And we're

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supposed to lose airmen . That's just

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part of the math and we bring airman in

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to replace those airmen . Well , that

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didn't happen for the last couple of

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years . I like to describe that in fun

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terms as we started walking down a

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little bit of a muffin top right now ,

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right ? We're kind of kind of kind of

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chunky , just like I did from eating

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too many cakes and cookies through

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Covid . However , the part that gets

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scary is where we're going with some

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divestment with some modernization .

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We're taking that muffin top and trying

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to squeeze into skinny jeans and that's

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a really bad optics , right ? We know

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that we can't go into that . We need to

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get some sculpting some some some hit

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the gym , we have to do something . We

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just can't go forward thinking it's

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okay to be as muffin top e as we are

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right now at the same time , if you

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look over at our reserve and our guard

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brothers , you'll see they're hurting .

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Right ? And we can we can analyze that

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for months out . The the easy answer is

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hey active duty airmen separating

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typically look for an A G . R . Job .

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They're not interested in the Tr job

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because you have to have some stability

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in the civilian economy to go do tR

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Right . We're worried about income and

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we have families and lives that we're

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trying to fund . Well if there are not

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a vampire ample a gr opportunities ,

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I'm not gonna affiliate . And that

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slowdown has hurt the garden a couple

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of positions in the reserves and a

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couple of positions that you're

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advertising , there's a GRS here . I

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might apply . All right . That's not

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the message everywhere . So if there's

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a grr interest here and I gotta tell

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you from the half , we do not care .

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Alright . If an active duty airmen

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wants to affiliate . That is a win .

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That is another aviator that's flying

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in the Air Force different components ,

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different patch but an airman and

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Airman and navy as an aviator . So

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please don't ever , you know sort of

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rain Hell on someone who's interested

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in affiliating not a good message .

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Let's let's encourage that . So that

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sets the stage in terms of our anyone

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have any questions on this . You'll see

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some some scary numbers like e pilot .

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Lots to talk about the pilot . We're

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not gonna spend time on it now . Just

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know that I used to have a lot of hair

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and now this is what happened , it's

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called the pilot . Um So lots of

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happened there but we're healthy

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otherwise these are keep rates . Uh So

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of the airmen that were actually are

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capable of keeping the Air Force , what

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percentage we keep it ? I'll tell you

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there's nothing up there that scares me .

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We're coming back down , we're leveling

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back down to what we should be keeping

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uh we were out of whack for a couple of

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quarters but we're looking good . Um

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We're looking okay , I think this is

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going to change and we talk about those

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two years to the 10 year , 15 year

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problems in a sec . You're gonna see ?

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All right , I can expect that to change

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as well . Alright , this is our

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challenge is the flying community not

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particularly boom booms are fairly

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stable . Right ? We have some

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divestment in KC 10 . It's gradual ,

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it's not as aggressive as some of our

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other flying families , our weapons

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systems but essentially this is the

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five gallon jug that needs to figure

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out how do we pour five gallons of

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three gallons and keep the right three

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gallons of water . I said to make fun

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of it . Ha ha ha , new york accent .

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Alright . We gotta figure out how do we

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keep the right water ? We just do ,

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we're not gonna be able to keep five

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gallons of water in a three gallon jug

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And that that , that represents the

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actual authorizations we have of

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aircrew in the Air Force from today .

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Going forward to do that , we have to

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do some shifting and I have a chart .

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They just let you give , give you a

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graphic . We have to do some shifting .

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So our first talking point , our first

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effort is managed to see a force we

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have smartly uh level within the A . F .

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S . Es . So if you are a KC 10 boom

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operator and there is an opportunity

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for you to become a K . C 46 boom

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operator , aggressively steer KC 10

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boom operators to become KC 46 . I know

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that there's sometimes some hesitation .

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We , we we tend to fall in love with

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our airplanes . We do . I identified

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with every airplane I flew on until I

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started changing airplanes and I was

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like , I I have no relationship anymore .

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Right ? Ah , But if we're not smart

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about harvesting the right talent and

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transitioning aircrew were gonna lose

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great airmen , right ? Because they'll

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probably dig their feet on the ground

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and say , I'm not interested in

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transitioning and iron will leave and

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the um d will go away and they will

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find themselves on n corpse saying go

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find a job in the Air force . Right ?

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And and that's a real message and we'll

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get to that message again for boom .

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It's it's gradual , it's not as

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aggressive but some of our family's

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pretty aggressive . We also have some

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opportunities in the math world in the

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17 . And I know we'll talk I'll talk to

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loads later . But you know , you tell

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the C . 17 Globemaster we're gonna make

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him a 1 30 J . Guy or gal . They're not

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they're not hearing that , right ? We

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have to level out . I can't keep the C .

10:23.904 --> 10:26.127
17 is really healthy and and and keep 1

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30 Jason healthy . So that's normal

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force leveling or cross flow the next

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is changing our retrain numbers . This

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year . I zeroed out all retraining into

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aircrew , right ? It was a little late

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to do it . But we we had to , there's

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no reason to take a young defender or

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services professional and put wings on

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their chest when I have wing wears in

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the Air force who need to keep flying ,

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right ? That's an easy decision . The

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heart of decision is next year . How

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many available crushing opportunities

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we even have And of next year , which

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FCS that are currently flying , Are we

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gonna keep flying ? Which airmen in

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those FCS will be able to stay flying

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and I'll talk about that . We've

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increased our D . S . D . Numbers and

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this one is a fun one to talk about .

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Uh when I was a staff for tech , I was

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actually an mtu instructor . You

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couldn't triple my pay and tell me to

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go wear a big hat at BMT and salute

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sideways . Just wasn't gonna happen .

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You could not motivate me to go serve

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as an M . T . I . I loved flying , I

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love teaching , I love being on the

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road . However , if you are , if you're

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an airman that's sort of in that , that

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muffin top area , right , you're ,

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you're part of the , the over ridge .

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This is an opportunity for you to

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continue serving , keeping your , your

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incentives , keeping your flight pay

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and come back home and maybe three

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years when the leveling is balanced out

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a little bit better . I will say , I

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wouldn't publish a guarantee saying if

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you go there , you're absolutely gonna

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come back flying . I just , I don't

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know what the force structure will look

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like in three years to really make that

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promise . I will say that's better than

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just putting her head in the ground and

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ignoring it altogether . So we've

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increased in the spring of last year

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was 23 . The fall of the cycle was 1 17

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and this year with this cycle , we just

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published 3 15 for release and it

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spread out to all different FCS . Uh

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and I know that that's , that doesn't

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mean that they'll go . That means that

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hey , you were willing to lose that

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many aviators to go do with DST , right ?

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We're changing the grades . This is

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gonna see you those of you who live in

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the um the world will see changes on

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your um D . S . The Air force is going

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through what's called enlisted grade

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review . We do that every two years .

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We do chiefs and we do seniors and

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below and chiefs and seasoned below .

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But if you think about the seats you

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sit in , your seats have ranks that are

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programmed to them and they're supposed

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to shape the way the FsC looks and we

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know percentages , everyone knows 1%

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chief 2% senior . Alright . No one

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really knows below below that .

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Everyone just kind of stops there . But

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there are numbers that are programmed

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for those in some cases are career

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fields look like christmas trees , kind

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of the right way . You have the right

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number of ranks the top , and in other

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cases we look like lollipops . Alright ,

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the flight engineer . Career field has

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.2% in the airmen tear . But we've been

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recruiting flight engineers and uh and

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non prior service flight engineers for

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two years now , obviously that's broken .

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So we're gonna shape the the uh a fsc

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the right way I share that because

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doing that will affect promotion rates

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if I reduce the number of masters

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seniors , Chiefs then , and and I'm

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indirectly slowing promotion down

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slightly while increasing experience

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levels , right ? So there's sort of a

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trade off there . I'm not telling you

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what the promotion numbers are , but I

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would expect that you'll see over the

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next few years promotion numbers coming

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down a little bit the rates that we

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promote because we don't have any

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vacancies and other next ranks . You

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should be , you should be aware of that .

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All right . And then the last is is

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really just be aggressive on balancing

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the airmen that we have and saying

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goodbye to airmen to do other

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opportunities and airplanes or not on

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airplanes throughout the Air Force

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through retraining process . And I'll

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spend a little time on that . Later .

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We have another couple of efforts . So

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this takes us into two years , 2-3

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years out is hey , are we doing it

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right . Are we bringing the rabbit ? No ,

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I didn't get I didn't get hit . Are we

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are we bringing the right arm in in ?

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Are we screening airmen for entry into

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the Air Force the right way ? We all

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took as bob . Right . We had a major

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scorer . Every fsC has a score of that .

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You you have a requirement . Um , but

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is that the only standard uh we had an

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anthropomorphic study going on . Uh you

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guys have , have you guys participate

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in it in any anyone in here ? We for

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since 1960 . You name the year . I well

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before I was born um we had a height

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standard of 64 inches with no signs of

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y 64 inches . We just said if you were

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shorter than 64 you can't fly . Well

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that excluded 40% of the American

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public And in particular minority

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minority groups , high 70s and 80% from

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accessing American talent that's out

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there with no science behind it . So if

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you were just 53" and wanted to waver ,

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I don't know what I'm waving . Uh is it

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because you can't reach a lever ? Is

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because you can't open the door . I

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don't know . We got that in front of a

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few years ago he gave he gave us five

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million three years to go out and

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examine every single airplane with

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anthropoid metric . Scientists truly

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like really smart people . Uh to

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measure not just your height but your

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reach . You can be a short person but

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have extended reach . So what are the

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true anthropological requirements ? We

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have right , we have another effort

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called optimizing human capital . Some

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of the you guys might have been part of

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this where we poked in your brains and

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try to figure out who you are

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cognitively . So intelligence wise and

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then who you are personality trait wise .

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Because at the Air Force level we tend

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to believe what I I better get at your

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level . We tend to believe that there's

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a lot of differences . A small is very

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different than a flight attendant .

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Sure their battle stations are

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different ones , a galley and one is

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the side of a helicopter with guns .

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But who are they cognitively , Who are

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they personality trait wise And we've

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done about 2.5 years of research and

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found guess what after millions of

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dollars were all the same Aviators are

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aviators with the exception of the one

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off eight career field . They are very

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different . Both cognitively and

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psychologically . And we probably need

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to spend millions of dollars to know

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that . I could have told you that world

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of warcraft wizards during lightning

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bolts are different than line flyers .

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Yes it is what it is . And and and if

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chief johnson was here , she would

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agree and then throw a lightning bolt

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at me . Uh So so we're different . Okay

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cool . But that's going to open up the

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conversation to barry analysis . How

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are we promoting ? Do we have

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disparities amongst our force ? Looking

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around the room right now we're

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predominantly white , 30 year old males .

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And sprinkles of female sprinkles of

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minority . That's more of a function of

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recruiting than it is our promotions .

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Right ? But what do we look like ? And

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how do we make sure ? And this isn't A .

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D . N . I . Effort . This is how do I

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access american talent ? There's

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talented americans out there that want

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to serve . Right . And if we drive that

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well up we're screwed as a nation . I

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just gotta say it that way . Um so we

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have to be smart about how we're

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structuring going forward and we're

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bringing people into the air force and

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taking care of them and then the last

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one and the one that I've probably my

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most fun topic to talk about with

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people on the road is what do we look

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like in 2030 ? Uh , I'm , I'm

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privileged to be read into some future

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force structure things . So the new

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airplanes were fielding the new

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concepts that are out there . Uh , it

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is , it is heartbreaking to listen to

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hey , the new crew position on this

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vessel , whether it be manned or

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unmanned . These are the things they do ,

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they do this and then you sit there and

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you're like , wow , that's a boom ,

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That's a load . That's a one off of

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three because there are ones and zeros

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heroes . Oh wait , that's also kind of

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like a sensor up . Oh , but I have like

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four FCS that do that and to have our

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senior leaders say , cool , you get one ,

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why don't you have that ? And my answer

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is well because I have a boom and booms

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are really good at booming . I don't

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know , booming is a thing , Booms are

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really good at being boom boom

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operators . Uh , but even the KC 46

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opens the door to hey , are you boom

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master attendance and also network

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operators ? Right ? You're gonna have

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to cross that line at some point and

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we're gonna have to identify as

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something different in 2030 I can

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guarantee you , we're not gonna have

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load master flight engineer one . I

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don't know what the hell we call went

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out for three today . Airborne mission

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systems specialist . Right ? They're

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gonna we're gonna look different and

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that's gonna be hard for us to accept .

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But we have to start that conversation

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or we will be completely irrelevant and

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not part of delivering Air force

17:16.546 --> 17:18.768
capabilities on whatever system the Air

17:18.768 --> 17:20.990
force fields . That's probably the 2 to

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15 to the 20 year discussion and most

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of us the rest of my hair will be gone .

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I'll be on a patio drinking beer ,

17:24.810 --> 17:27.340
watching and laughing . Ah But we have

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to have that conversation as a family .

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We have examples of us not having that

17:31.729 --> 17:33.784
conversation as a family putting our

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head in the ground and watching our Air

17:36.007 --> 17:38.007
force leaders make decisions to use

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other airmen that are great americans

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right in the capacity that we would

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probably thrive because we have talent

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and experience in that area and we need

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to be smart as an Air force and and

17:46.409 --> 17:48.520
capitalize on that talent . Alright ,

17:48.520 --> 17:47.570
so we'll we'll get into some of that

17:47.570 --> 17:49.737
jazz in a little , here's what are F .

17:49.737 --> 17:51.903
S . Es look like and when I talk A F .

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S . Es . Force health , I can talk

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about cups like if there's a cup and

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it's this big and it's 80% full then

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it's 80% man . But the reality is we

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have to look at a fsc what you see on

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the right by year group , right ? How

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healthy we are in the early year groups ,

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how healthy we are in the mid years and

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in the late years . And that's actually

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how we do our manning . We look at it

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that way , you'll see what's going on

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and I'm out of order here . I went

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right to the one you zero in new york's

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ones , but we'll start with them . You

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can see that there's yellow , yellow

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represents , our student population is

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actually our students trainees and the

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right term is personnel and hold the

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status . I call it prisoners . So

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students trainees and prisoners and

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that's probably a good ratio of how

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many prisoners and the red line

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represents the actual requirement ,

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what we actually need and a healthy

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balanced career field sort of rides

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that red line and , and , and you can

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see in the one year zero for example ,

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they're slightly fat in the 15 to 1920

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year group that starts and that's ,

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that's where I get indicators of who we

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need to end corp out , where I where I

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don't want to take any corp in and what ,

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how we want to balance the career

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fields and we will use this as a good

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example . But more importantly , let's

18:49.907 --> 18:52.129
talk about where you're at this is what

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the boom operators on the top there ,

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what you guys look like as a community .

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The good news is your red line is

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fairly stable and it's going to grow

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right as 46 fields and and 10

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transitions . You're not in this this

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really divestment business that's

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that's going to sort of break how we

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balance the career field . uh we got

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some fat , you can see the seven to the

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nine and then a little bit some of you

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guys are probably like , oh yeah that's

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me . Yeah that's alright . We can be

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slightly over in your groups when you

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see big pockets is or if the red line

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was shifting significantly where I'd be

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pretty freaked out with , oh my gosh ,

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what do I do with these airmen ? We've

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built a little bit of a backlog in KC 1

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35 . Right ? So you , you want 35

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people know that you're sitting really

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healthy right now and we did that in

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anticipation of B . I . Q . For 46

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rolling out and that was delayed . I

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know the S . G . T . O . Worked and

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we're we're excited about the numbers

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you're gonna present or that you

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presented and going forward . But we

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really as an Air Force really need you

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guys to start by queuing brand new

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right right off the street . No Bt

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Express . This also has hurt the guard

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and the reserves where they've been

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sending people to 1:35 really for

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holding , right ? And you guys are

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living it , you know that um

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there's the engineers , there's

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probably no engineers in here . But

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let's look at the engineers , they're

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all over the place . Some of you guys

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have flown with engineers . You 10

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people have flown with engineers and

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you've probably seen some A one CS

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coming to the the A . F . C . It's a

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little shock to the system . You're

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used to a 10 year maintenance on the

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flight line due to do that . Who's

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super smart coming in to be a flight

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engineer . And it's it's weird when you

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see a young a one C sitting in a

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cockpit doing it first . I'm gonna tell

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you from where I sit . I have no fear .

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A one CS are freaking smart way smarter

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than I was when I was in a one C . I do

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have concerns that our pipeline , our

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machine isn't used to dealing with that

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type of plato . Right ? If you all you

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had to do was roll green plato into a

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snake for the last 20 years , 30 years ,

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40 years and I now give you white plato ,

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you have to actually add food coloring ,

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right ? That's what you have to do to

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anyone . See you have to give them some

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maturity , some professionalism , right ?

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You have to onboard them to the Air

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Force . So you're gonna have bumps with

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that . But in terms of capability ,

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White plato turned green can still roll

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up into a snake and become a flight

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engineer . And because those gaps there

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when you see those gaps , that's why we

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had to do it . We just didn't have the

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feeder HFCS to support the career field .

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So we brought a one season . Alright ,

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I'll go fast to the other ones because

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you probably don't care about everyone

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else , but I do want you to see what

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the rest of the family looks like .

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Here's your load friends , they're

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fairly stable . You are one off of

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threes . I'm probably blocking it for

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some but the one off of threes , they

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are hot , hot hot , flaming mess right

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now . Alright . Multiple airframes at

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the 12 threes fly are divesting and

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there were divesting it rather rather

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quickly . Uh Next week leaving here I

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go to Robyn's to talk to Robin's

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because they're divesting , divesting

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four tails this year . Eight tails next

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year . 44 tales of last year , That's

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it . It's done . That's 251 off of

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three positions that vaporize . Alright ,

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that's 250 airmen . That needs to find

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something else to do in the air force .

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I'm gonna go with phone books taped up

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around my waist because I know how

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people like hit me with a blade . I'm

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not getting stabbed . Uh But that's

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gonna be a real conversation with hey

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airman , this is happening .

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Um you talked about 2030 and the

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possibility of booze knowing more about

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these other mission systems and

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crossing the Uh I mean from our

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perspective this is an awesome

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opportunity for around three years to

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come into the 46th program and give us

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the help that we need because we're

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trying to learn it all ourselves . We

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have to go back a lot of issues . So

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when you propose that , are you

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proposing that we make one a three is

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one A ones . I'm sorry 18 zeros . Are

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you proposing that we add a crew member

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to the crew complement decision at your

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level brother . Trust me that is like

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up here , we'll bring them

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to figure out what to hold onto that

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thought because I I'm gonna we'll talk

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about where we're going as a concept

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doesn't mean I'm in love with it , but

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I want you to know where what the 15

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year headlights look like . Okay . Uh

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I'll tell you the short answer . If

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it's at a crew member , the generals

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will slice me like it's just that's not

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even uh what we make it more . How

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about we just make the airmen right ,

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we'll get it , we'll get there .

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Alright , there's our threes in the

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three turmoil . Here's what are sixes

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look like by far my not favorite Fsc .

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I gotta tell you executive air list a

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very important mission . But they are a

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very small fsc . executive or a flight

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attendant in the air force . And they

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probably account for about 20% of my

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week every week . I'm not lying to you

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guys . Aside from its high viz mission .

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Uh They're just they're they're a

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difficult career field because they

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were prior service only at one point .

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They don't come with all the aviation

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experience that we probably take for

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granted because we all grew up in

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flying squadrons right ? And then they

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get mixed with engineers and scissors

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and it's a rough environment so they're

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they're definitely busy but we have a

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plan for them to I'll talk about that .

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These are nines . These guys think

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they're God's gift to the Air Force .

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If you meet a nine just ask them

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they'll tell you . Uh but they're

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actually unhealthy in some of the later

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year groups . And the nines have a lot

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of divestment as well . Alright we're

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divesting V 22 were not divesting V .

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22 is we're moving V . 22 is into

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backup inventory which changes the

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number of seats , the number of U . N .

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D . Seats you have . Alright so we were

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gonna be sort of over manned in one a 9

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in the next couple of years . Hi so

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with all that talk I'm gonna introduce

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you guys to my bathtub . Uh It's not

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it's not gonna be weird . I'm not gonna

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have oils and candles . Uh but I

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managed are a fsc like with analogies

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right ? With a bathtub all in all CFM

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do in a sense . And the bathtub has a

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certain amount of water water in it

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right ? And you have a drain of people

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departing the Air Force and I'm not

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saying they're a drain they're just

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making you know there's water leaving

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the bathtub you have to have the

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ability to refuel it refill it . Uh For

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other FCS that are not flying FCS ,

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that's not terribly difficult because

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for them you watch people down BMT ,

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you send them to basic training and

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then two basic initial skills and they

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go to the squadron for for their form

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of absorption . They go to upgrade

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training , right ? Or O . J . T . U . G .

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T . And so on . Some of you guys are

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cross trainers who lived that world .

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But for us we have so many stops along

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the way we have sear we have so we we

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have uh sometimes ancillary courses

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that we have I . Q . T . That makes a

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whole different system to manage a lot

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longer and a lot more complex . So I'm

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introducing the cap , he's on my team ,

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Captain , the ducky . Right ? Here's

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the water . You got people leaving ,

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people are going to separate from the

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Air Force . We have some ability to

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affect that . We do that through srb ,

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through established through non

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monetary incentive programs , Right ?

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And some of you here hopefully are

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living this where if you're here for

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three years on a three year control ,

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uh you have an option to extend . Most

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people come kicking and screaming to

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the FT . You and then we get to the Fc .

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U . There kind of like , hey this is

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kind of cool , it's predictable and my

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family's happy . I'd like to stay a

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little bit longer . Right ? That's a

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non monetary incentive for us to tell

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FTC you will honor those , you will

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support that . It gives our people

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stability . Right ? The flip side

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making this a five year tour might

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scare some people from initially even

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wanting to come out here . Right ? So

25:34.290 --> 25:36.401
you got to balance these other things

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would be I know we just announced base

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of preference is gone , But nothing in

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our system tells us that we can't say

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our F2 instructors sort of get first

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right of refusal to opportunities that

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are out there , right ? There's other

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incentives . You have nothing about

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nothing to do with putting dollars in

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your pocket . And then there's srb s

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which are really difficult to compete

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for and really difficult to communicate

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our for us because Air Force a one

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doesn't see flying training as a cost

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to make aviators . Right ? We grew up ,

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we grew up we probably all your GPRS ,

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you probably have things that say , you

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preserve $467 million of program flying

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training or you are responsible for a

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crew position . That's very expensive .

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And you are . But the Air Force doesn't

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by flying training for us . They by

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flying training for pilots and then we

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figure out how many of us can we make

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with the times that the airplane is

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gonna fly because we bought training

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for pilots , right ? And I'm not saying

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you're cheap . Don't say all the CFM

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came down and said , we're cheap . We

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are expensive , were expensive in time ,

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Right ? Were expensive and time to

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replace . But CV 22 flight in general

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would cost 1.27 million to make me ,

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You know like no it doesn't it costs

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like 39,000 because in the Air Force a

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one's eyes , the only thing that costs

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is initial skills . So we not any of

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this in our eyes , we know we have to

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manage this pipeline a lot more complex .

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Right ? So we have a lot of vowels in

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that pipeline . The first one is B . M .

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T . And getting people in the door .

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The second one is chamber , believe it

26:50.530 --> 26:52.419
or not , if you can't get them to

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chamber , it doesn't matter how much

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flying training you have , you aren't

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gonna fly them . The next is I . Q . T .

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Or undergraduate program training .

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Right ? How many students can we get

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through ? C . O . E . The good news is

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Ceo . He has tons of ability , tons of

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classroom space . That's not the issue .

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The issue is you guys right at the ft

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you and more importantly in the line

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units , if you guys can't absorb them ,

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if you can't get them as an M . B .

27:13.333 --> 27:15.556
Right ? It doesn't matter if I can make

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them in the school and if I get them to

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see how we they just sit there

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breathing oxygen , fogging mirrors and

27:18.589 --> 27:20.756
getting in trouble . Right ? So in the

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in our programming , you guys actually

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set the pace of everything before it

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and that is difficult , Right ? That's

27:27.640 --> 27:29.751
why we have to be aggressive with how

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we manage our fsc years before the iron

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leaves the ramp or or shows up on the

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ramp . That's why we have the backlog

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on our KC 1 35 booms . That's why we're

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fat and with muffin top in some places .

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All right . And then then there's water

27:42.918 --> 27:42.870
that comes out of there and finish this

27:42.870 --> 27:44.981
this story up . Right . Alright . Two

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ways to look at it . How deep the

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bathtub is . That's easy , 80% man .

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100% man . But more importantly ,

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what's the water temperature ? Do I

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have the right number of K . Excuse T .

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S . Right . In the enterprise , You

27:54.972 --> 27:57.028
guys own that you guys live that you

27:57.028 --> 27:59.194
guys decided you guys figure out who's

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the hey , am I okay with making an A

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one C instructor ? I don't know .

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You're gonna have to convince your

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commanders that we need to make that a

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one c instructor assuming they're the

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right a one c to sustain the enterprise .

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It feels weird , but you're gonna have

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to make that call and the Air Force

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absolutely trusts you to do that . That

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is not some old dude who sits in a

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cubicle in the pentagon . Although I do

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have a window , I don't know if Chief

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stock , it has a window . You have a

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window . See I have a window , There's

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like 19 of us in this much space , like

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next to the window but that's not our

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job . You guys set the entire roadmap

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for how we manage . You can keep the

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Ducky too if you want that , I'll get

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you guys that Alright , that's how we

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manage . Our flying are flying force

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right transitions . It won't affect

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many of our boom operators but some of

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them will find themselves at a

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transition point where the iron goes

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away and their options are real simple .

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You can commission up the gray arrow .

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You can remain an enlisted aviator .

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That's that , that baby blue that's up

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there and if your vector and we'll talk

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about vectoring a little bit . If your

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vector you can go to the staff ah you

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can cross flow into another airplane in

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your same BFFs or you can cross train .

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Now historically as the CFM I had the

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ability to do this , I can just 11

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4 12 gives the CFM the ability to say a

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boom operator tomorrow is gonna be a

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flight engineer and I'm sending them .

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You don't have to do anything else . I

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can make that call . But in fy 23 I'm

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not making that call , I'm deliberately

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sending our aviators that are over

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ridges into the end corporate sheen

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because what I want to preserve is

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transparency with the community . If I

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end corp these are arbitrary numbers

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don't post this on facebook and get me

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in trouble but if I was escorting

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hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of

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aviators out of flying and I only had

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the ability to keep 50 of them flying .

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I don't want the the optic that some do

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to do that is sitting there hooking

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bros up like oh I'm gonna make sure

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Billy goes and Jessica goes because I

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used to fly with them instead . I'm

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gonna simply say hey Air force were

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this juicy we're this much muffin top

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of aviators . This is what I have to go

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forward , continue flying of the ones

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that I can continue flying . I'm gonna

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I'm gonna season I'm gonna look for

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some talent . They must be prior KQ T .

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If you're in a prior instructor vary to

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weapons school and progress in your old

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airplane . I certainly don't need to

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keep it as part of the 50 that's a

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flying or the 60 that's a flying

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whatever that number is . So I'm gonna

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I'm gonna be a little picky because we

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can be rich people problems Right ? But

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I'm not gonna allow my team or any HPC

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function to say well you know Joey's

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from CV 22 and that's a lot harder than

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airplane to qualify on then maybe Casey

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10 boom . So CV 22 guy gets the state

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flying will make him a load master and

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KC 10 person oh well figure it out that

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that's not okay and by the way CB 22

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guy was only a CV 22 guy because the

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schedule and his class when he went to

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MEps that day got him that way . It

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wasn't because the person , the flight

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suit was somehow better than someone

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else in the Air Force . Right ? So

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we're not gonna operate that way . Are

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Ava does have to go through the

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retraining process this year . That's

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new . We've never done that as long as

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I've been and I've never forced , I've

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never seen aviators forced to

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retraining . But in some cases we're

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gonna have to ask them over here which

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is to go through the retraining process .

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All right . And then lastly , some of

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our videos might want to pursue

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something different and I'm good with

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that too . I happen to think that an

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Airman and airman as an Airman Airman ,

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you happen to be airmen who are

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classified as aviators who can serve in

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the Air Force on airplanes . You're not

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people on airplanes who happen to be

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airmen . And I'm confident that our

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airmen when they get to the field ,

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especially for things that we don't

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typically operate and we're gonna

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thrive probably because we're effects

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based . We tend to not be so compliance

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based . I shouldn't openly say that we

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were about getting things done . And

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the Air Force likes to see people get

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things done that you shouldn't break

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all the rules . Right ? We just know

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how to work through the waivers and and

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and be aggressive at action and I look

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forward to our wing wearers making

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contact with parts of the Air Force

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that they typically don't serve in

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today , uh I think they're gonna thrive .

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So that's the other option . And then

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you have developmental special duties .

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Absolutely . And then affiliation about

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a year ago we had concerns that the ark

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the medical world and both the guard

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and the reserves were holding entry

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people into the entry session standards

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did some research . The reality is it's

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continued service so you don't have to

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pass like a BMT physical to affiliate .

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You just have to be able to affiliate .

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So , so we're encouraging affiliation

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as much as we can . Alright , this is

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just the same thing . Again , just what

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it looks like on a timeline When we

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faced investment , this is probably

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applicable of our 10 team in the room ,

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but I was at McGuire and I was at

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Travis earlier this year and I shared

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this exact same slide with this is how

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we're transitioned through this process .

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Let's leave it up there . I'm not gonna

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yap too much about it . All right , no

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question moving on . So this is the

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weird one . Uh the FTC has a bunch of

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things that you have to apply to this

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and send this and and I'm really

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interested in this , but this is me

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telling you if you're an aviator and

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I'm not trying to harvest your booms

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instructors out of here , please don't

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get mad at me , but sometimes something

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else calls to us in life something else

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is , hey I've always wanted to be a

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defense attache and maybe work at an

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embassy right I've always wanted to be

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interested in one thing , this is me

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telling you there's a way to get to yes

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and while the Air force's answer might

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say click on this CMS case and routed

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and so on . I beg you all as aviators

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to talk to your CLS and make your S CLS

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go to your group and make your group

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talk to your match com functional .

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He's in the room right talk to the

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match com functional and that dude or

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dude that has direct lines to me and to

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HPC to accelerate a decision and even

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though the air forces might go through

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the machine , the CMS case and so on we

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can let you know if it's going to be a

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yes or no and if it's gonna be a no ,

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no one likes no but if it's gonna be a

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no here's why it's a no here the

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conditions that shape that no and

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here's what has to change before we can

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say yes again so you can be educated

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and I'm not just a cold no and your

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your wing where he's like what the heck

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I can't get anything done . Alright so

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if that's something that interests you ,

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this is how we coordinate functionally ,

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that's not a chain of command , your

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chain of command and chain of command ,

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this is a chain of communication .

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Alright this is how our functional

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world works . Alright so functional

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development and I gotta start speeding

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up because you guys will get bored on

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me . Uh A fun question to answer for it ,

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especially to our general office

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sometimes is what why why why do we

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have career listed aviators ? I could

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just X . Coda to T . Two and call him a

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load master . He sleeps just as much .

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Right um

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Who are the loads in here ? Let me make

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my firing lanes just here . Uh huh .

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Going back over here right now . But

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that's a good question like so why do

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we have this thing called complicity

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Aviator ? My answer is yes I have a f .

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A f . Yes I have a form eight and I do

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things in the air but I'm a

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professional aviator right there is the

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second part of my wings that are

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represented by my knowledge of

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organizational sustainment and the

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aviation discipline that a two T two

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just doesn't have right . They don't

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grow up working in stand oval or in

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tactics or in training right . They

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don't do that , they don't understand

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the intimate relationship between those

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functions right ? Truly intimate . Like

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these guys are tight uh to understand

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how does that work , how does

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scheduling work into it ? No one wants

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to be a schedule but you know what most

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aviators have at some point most

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aviators have worked maybe they weren't

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the N . C . I . C . Or the chief of it

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but they've worked in training ,

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they've worked in standard . They

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understand how a tactic translates into

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a syllabus who gets validated by a

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command evaluation program that

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prescribes corrective action for one of

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those two things . That's what we are

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and that's the stock value of your

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wings . So as our airmen move around to

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different places you need to hear me

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your F . E . F . Is part of your your

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your your credibility your stock value ,

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your knowledge of aviation is the other

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part . And I and I know we don't always

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love those additional duties but that's

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the very thing that makes us a career

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listed aviator and not an X coded flyer .

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It isn't because I do something on an

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airplane . Anyone can do something an

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airplane . It's because we're aviators

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right ? We have an aviation corps .

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This is our timeline , we're gonna

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publish this in our next http you'll

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see something like it'll have a lot of

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the specific courses for the fsc but

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sort of a road map . Hey if you're an

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airman this is what you expect . You're

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gonna go through some training and

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you're gonna see some things in your

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squadron in our next see http release .

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We're gonna write things that and most

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people don't deal with the cFE DP . But

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but if you did if you looked at it

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you're gonna read that at three levels

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supposed to work in different shops .

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I'm not gonna put line items that say

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that that we're not gonna go there .

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We'll never have 6:23s . As long as I'm

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the CFM for one more year . Right ? But

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we're gonna talk about , hey it's

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normal to work in standard but it's

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normal to work in schedule . It's

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normal to be mobility or safety or any

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of the functions we work in . Because

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what I don't want is a 20 year chief ,

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a 20 year master sergeant who's never

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done any of those things . Who doesn't

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understand those intimate relationships

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between those flying organizations at

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the squadron level operates that way at

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the air force level . Those

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relationships still exist . So it's ,

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it's important that we understand them .

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Here's the next part . Right ? So some

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of you are living in this range . Some

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of you are at the ft you now some of

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you are teaching at cuz some of you

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have been to the weapons school right ?

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Or you're at O . G . V . S or N . C . I .

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C . S of shops and and you're working

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through leadership in the different

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functions of flying organization who's

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been in to see slick anybody . Yeah ,

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this is a fun course . I love the

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course . I don't know what your

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opinions are of it . You can don't

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don't don't put me on blast and tell me

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that you hate it here and make me cry .

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It would be awkward . But I love the

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course because what it does is if it's

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done right . What it's supposed to do

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is bring aviators together from

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different parts of the family . Uh and

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then throw a grenade out there and say ,

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how do you guys tackle this problem ?

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We bring a chief mentor into the gate .

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You think about this ? Have you thought

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about that ? But it's not meant to be a

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lecture where someone's just like blah

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blah blah blah blah . And let's be

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honest , we've all dealt with a

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tactical than if person , we've all

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dealt with a person who has long term

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benefits but wanted to come back on

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status . But now it was not doing the

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best . We've all looked at a um D . And

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be like , what ? How do I move this

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where it's things that are unique to

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flying ? Alright . The 11 4th series ,

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11 2 series and how we lead in

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transition . A tech sergeant from

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thinking like a tech sergeant start

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thinking like an op suit that's the

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purpose of c slick and it's really fun

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to watch different cultures do there .

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It's watch , it's fun to watch the ,

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the Flying world be really mad at the

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unmanned world or the special mission

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aviators be really upset that a flight

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attendants in the class with them And

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then after about two or three days of

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the class do you realize while flying ?

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Really is flying ? We all have the same

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challenges . It's just your form eight

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says gally mindsets gun , right ? It

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does there , there's just a galley ,

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don't you ? I will make so much fun of

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the flight attendants , right ? But

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there's more in common with being an

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aviator than less . Although our

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airplanes look different and cyclic

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does that for us ? We're gonna talk a

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little bit . How many senior in sales

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are in the room ? Yeah . So the ET is

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such a sore topic . We've been doing it

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for five years and we still haven't got

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it right . I'm gonna show you what it

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looks like this year and hope that it

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works . It works out better and , and

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we'll go literally better next year and

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we'll keep improving . But I'll talk

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about ET , there's see slick . If you

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don't know what it's for , that's what

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it looks like . That's the classroom .

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It's down in san Antonio hold it .

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What's that ? They , they'll never

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fix that . A C . Just , just expect

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that . It's always right now . They're

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burning up as quick as we speak . All

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right . We're working on it

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by the second choice . Yeah .

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You know , we , we deliberately keep

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the seasick , uh , see slick audience

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or this target student throughput low .

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It's fun to watch the match come

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functional fight about it . This just

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happened the other two days ago chief .

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I would like just , just happened every

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year . We go through the ceaseless

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distribution and it's almost like like

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we're moving kilos like it's , it's

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like , hey dude , if you give me to see

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slicks , I'll give you one this and

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like you can't trade him like that .

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But what are you doing ? It's , it's

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sought after and it should be because

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it's not meant for everyone . It's

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meant for our talented women that we

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see moving to the opposite role and

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that's why we were increasing extra . I

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think we're going 18-28 , but we're

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never gonna , it's not gonna be a

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massive throughput course . It's not

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meant to do that . All right , this is

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coming up this fall . We're gonna bring

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a course online called Seasick and this

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doesn't apply to everybody in the room ,

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but I'll tell you when you , when

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you're a senior and you get dumped on a

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staff somewhere . There are a lot of

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lessons you learn and it's really hard

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to learn . And while you're , while

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you're stumbling through through the

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staff , uh , every , all these letters ,

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we talked to a one , the A to the A

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three , the A P . P . P . P . You're

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like , what the what ? Right , aside

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from that part , there's , there's a

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whole social peace . There's a whole

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relationship building piece that makes

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the staff work . And our young aviators

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who go up to staff often spend 4-6

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months trying to figure it out .

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Seasick is going to come online to help

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prepare our vector , individuals ,

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going to staff jobs to be on the staff

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to understand that when you're the CC

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line of 23 stars talking . That's not

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your time to hit reply all I'm like ,

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hey guys , this is what I think , right

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because that happens occasionally .

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Usually by one of us was like , I can

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talk to officers right now . It's ,

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here's how staff works . I'm joking

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about that . Don't call nobody out theO .

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All right , this is Sam , have you guys

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seen SAM before ? Yes . Senior N . C .

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O . S . Have you seen SAM before ?

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Please say yes because this came on the

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DDT charter . We , we get together as a

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D . T . The community gets together

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every year and we look at records , we

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look at senior master and master

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records and we try to provide feedback

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on their functional development . Not

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on their promote ability , right ?

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Those things can be related , but

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they're different on their functional

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development . How are they growing as

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an aviator ? And in order for us to do

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this accurate , we have to sort of

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calibrate on what is a good aviator ?

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What what how do we define a good

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aviator ? So we came up with SAm . Sam

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is the season their crew member . It

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was sag season aircrew guy that's

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obviously gender inappropriate . It

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became season aircrew member chop them

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up like a piece of steak and these are

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the things we care about . All right .

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You got to be an expert in your crew

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position . If you're not even your crew

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position . I gotta , I gotta , you

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shouldn't be coming to be on the staff ,

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right ? You gotta know your crew

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position , but more importantly you

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have some crude progression . You have

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crew position progression , right ? KQ .

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T . W . And I'll be honest , some of

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our FMS took this the wrong way this

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year . They read if you didn't have K .

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Q . T . And w . Then you should be

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excluded . I'm happy to report to you

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all . We're going to right the ship and

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I'm gonna bring records to the board .

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Uh And if there's any senior in sales

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out that got that message , My

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apologies . I didn't make it clear that

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it's you should have a progression . If

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you came over as a cross training ,

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it's possible that you didn't get all

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those that alphabet soup of letters ,

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right ? Yeah . Yeah . No , that's real .

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Okay . Yeah . But what was one of them ?

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it . Yeah . And more importantly , if

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you're gonna take across chinese record ,

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you gotta look for for comparable

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experience in the cross twenties

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journey , right ? Someone might have

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been a QA in their old world , that

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kind of counts as Sandoval , right ?

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They might have been standard . But if

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they were defender actually has

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Sandoval . Right ? So you got to look

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for that same experience , those same

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qualities and crushing his record . Now ,

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if we have a crusher that came over as

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master sergeant , they have $200 in the

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airplane . I'm not bringing to a vector

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board . That's just like I'm not

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putting on a staff because you're gonna

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set stuff on fire all over the place .

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Uh So there's gonna be a balance . And

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and guys were humans in the Air Force ,

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we make mistakes and I think this year

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some of the initial screening for KQ T .

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W . Got a little out of hand so we'll

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fix it . We have time . Other things

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training , tax extended value , gotta

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have experience in some of those . All

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of those . Right ? Or orbits of those

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scope is a your boom operator . But

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have you been a boom operator ? Only on

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1 35 only on one base KC 10 . Right .

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That that's a possibility . But or

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while you are on K . C 10 , did you

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change your scope ? Did you do training ?

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Did you shift over and work at the O .

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S . S ? Did you leave boom operator and

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help the A five or actions that

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involved programming for for the KC 10 ?

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Right . What was your scope as a boom

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operator ? If you got 10,000 hours

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flying as a boom operator sitting on a

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KC 10 . Cool deal brother . But I don't

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need you to be on staff . No one cares

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about the number of hours you have on

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the staff , They care about your

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understanding of how flying works .

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Right ? So scope formal training . So

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formal training experience , that

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doesn't just mean at the tea at the tea

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at the schoolhouse with a T . Code .

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You might be the judi judi onboarding

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young airman into your line squadron .

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That's formal training because they're

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going through an M . R . Syllabus of

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some sort some things making a mission

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ready . Uh This is the uh the rest of

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those , I think you guys can see and

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make make sense of what they are . The

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one that I'll stop on is aviation

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management . You'd be amazed at how

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much aviators don't know about the 11

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4th series , right ? 11 41424 , 21 are

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some people are experts in it and we

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kind of just defer to our , certain

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people like , yeah , they'll take care

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of us . Aviation management actually

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requires us to know some of that too .

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So I'm gonna look for some knowledge of

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you exposure and working with the 11 4

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series . Right ? So 401424 , 12 . Say

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it one more time . Yeah . Yeah . Well ,

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I mean we have some responsibilities of

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those F . I . S as well and we should

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be familiar with them . So that's SAM .

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We measure our airmen against SAM and

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then we owe feedback to the field of

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how they measured up against SAm . Hey ,

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you have not a lot of experience in

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this area . I consider opportunities to

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gain exposure in these particular areas .

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I'm not gonna tell you , you need to

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pcs that that's Goofy or , or in one

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year we did a DDT , we had some chiefs

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say you should pursue opportunities

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outside the squadron and on the same

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panel , you should pursue opportunities

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inside your squadron . I'm like you

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guys , we look like a clown show doing

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that right . If our communities ever

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gonna buy into this program , we need

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to give them tailored feedback . That

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makes sense . And it doesn't have to be .

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You're missing your decoration from B .

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M . T . On a grad . Alright . There's a

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gazillion chiefs and leaders along the

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way that can do that feedback . It can

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be things like compared to your peers .

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You really have missed the training

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realm . And at this point , if you want

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to be considered for vector , you need

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exposure to training . And I hope this

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year delivers that guys , I'm human

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like you are . So let's see what

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happens , right ? Um But I'll tell you

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that the Chiefs are working hard to to

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make this E . D . T . Work a little bit

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better . This was the process the

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timeline that we were doing it lots

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going on their phase one is the

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screening pushing names up . Phase two

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is the actual board . Phase three is

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the vector pool . The vector pool is

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where we pull people to serve in our

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key positions . Are key leadership or

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key development positions . This year ,

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we're going to keep people in the

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vector pool for two years . Ah That

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vector pool is what we say Phil's

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decode positions and the only people

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who can fill decode positions have to

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come from there . There's no

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mismatching . Alright . This is how it

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works uh will run like a standard AD

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and are infected . Individuals are

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capable of applying . If non vectors ,

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individuals apply that . All vector

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individual names are going as non

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volatile consideration . That's how it

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works . We don't just say oh no one

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wants to apply so we'll skip to someone

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else . Ah The M . F . M . S have the

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ability to select and there's something

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called manning point 5.5 pc policy that

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says you can hire who you want to hire

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using manning 0.0.5 for a decode

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position , which means if you're a nine

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year GPC cardholder who's been hiding

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in the squadron and now you want to go

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to scott , you don't get to skip people

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who are vectored . You have to be

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vectored , you have to be hired . All

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right . And that's how the DT process

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works . Alright . I'm gonna move on any

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any questions on DT ? Hi , we have

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positions . Tier one . Tier two . Tier

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one means you affect all parts of the

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flying community here too , is you're

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very segmented to a particular area and

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our vector positions are either tier

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one or tier two . We don't have Tier

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one people and tier two people .

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Alright . We have airmen who are

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vectored , not Tier one and tier one .

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I'm better than No , no , no , no . We

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have tier one . Tier two positions .

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These are the business rules , I'll let

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you guys digest that real quick for a D .

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T . Cycle and you'll see that I lined

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through missing my vector inputs were

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in that part of this process now and a

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large portion of our vectored

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candidates , people or your squadron .

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And your group SCS have pushed don't

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even know that we either didn't know or

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my vector failed . I'm not going to

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pull those people out . That's complete

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garbage . They're going to the board

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anyway . Yeah . And and sadly with my

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vector , once that ball gets rolling ,

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there's no way to stop it , right ? But

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we we can be smart and realized our air

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might get a chance to get a look . So

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we're gonna give the look . We were

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discussing , I think a lot of people

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so we're missing a very big opportunity .

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So you get everything , you know , in

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this conversation that suspect . Yeah ,

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I agree . I I mean we're doing PSD M my

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vector is the system of record to do

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this , right ? I don't need a computer

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system though to drive us to talk as a

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flying family and make sure we're

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pushing the right names forward . I'm

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scared that because the computer

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systems are goofy , we lose some of the

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right names . And and with this my

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vector thing and this whole D . T .

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Team . I'm not telling you guys as

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senior in sales , you have to everyone

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has to do a staff tour like you're a

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terrible human being if you don't do

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that . No , I know some people set

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their targets as I'd like to retire as

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a master sergeant as an SCL or as a

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flight chief that is a great

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opportunity . Great ending point for

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someone's career DT isn't about telling

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you you're , you're a dirtbag . If you

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don't meet this criteria . DT is about ,

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hey , if you're advocating articulating ,

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I'm interested in serving on the staff ,

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Right ? This is how you get the staff .

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That's what DSCC is for . So don't ,

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don't take any of my preaching up here

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as somehow I'm looking poorly on people

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who don't want to go serve on the staff .

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It's okay . I'll be honest . I don't

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want to serve on a staff . I went to

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the language to be the A C C M F M

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because my wife is from Brooklyn and

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she has to be in blue were Puerto Rican ,

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she has to be a Bluetooth range of her

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mom at all times . Right . So we had

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two Pcs to Langley to help that out .

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Do do do do they could do their mom and

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daughter thing now I happen to love it

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and I enjoyed being a functional

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manager . But some of my career choices

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were based on my family's desires . You

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all should do that and if this is

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something you want to do , then DT is

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the process to provide you the guidance .

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All right . Alright . There's a

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timeline already said we're in this

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part here , but it's closing today . So

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don't worry about it . We're gonna go

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forward and we'll pull the names that

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the mfs pushed forward and there's the

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end . This is the end of like the

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journey , right ? That that late years

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where you're alright . I've been flying

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for a little bit . I'm probably an SCL ,

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I'm probably an op soup , I'm probably

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an SCL sometimes we get a little

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emotional with , hey , I'm SCL but now

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there's a chief coming . So I have to

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be the op soup that's gonna look bad

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and people going to see it and I think

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I got no one cares . I'm telling you ,

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I've sat on so many boards . No one

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cares . We read what you did . Yeah ,

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no . Yeah , like we don't I

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on the board , here's what we care

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about and I know this is , I'm just

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pontificating up you guys like , shut

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up mike . Just just hear hear me out ,

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hear me out . You actually measure how

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someone performed against what they

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were asked to do if I asked you guys to

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make a cookie and you open a bakery .

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You're amazing . I don't care that it

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was called cookie . But if I asked you

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to run a steakhouse and all your report

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is that you ran a steakhouse steakhouse

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sounded fancy . But all you did was

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what we asked you to do . So your title

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doesn't matter what you did in these

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positions matter now , truth be told .

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When you look at people who are

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successful , they sent to , they

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sometimes seem to have a journey of

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titles , write a series of titles that

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led up to it . I'm on the back half of

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my career team . I gotta tell you each

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of those opportunities were a result of

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what I did while making cookies . They

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weren't a result of me chasing being

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the steakhouse manager and , and I mean

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that with all sincerity , we read what

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you've done , not what it was called .

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All right , so you're gonna dance that

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whole thing to say . You might be an

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SCL , you might be an op soup , you

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might go on staff and then come back to

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operational , flying them back to staff .

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That's okay . At some point , the rest

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of your hair falls out of turns gray ,

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right ? And then become a chief and

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you're either gonna be a chief and a

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line unit , you're gonna go to some of

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our K LPS , right ? So you can be the

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commandant , you could be a match com

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function , you could be the Chief of

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HPC assignments can be the CFM Or you

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could be a 9G right ? Be a group chief

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and and be a command chief . And if you

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have enough time , you can dance and

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you should , a lot of people think that

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you have to commit to one side or the

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other as you're in your senior time as

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achieved or as a senior , like , oh ,

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if I don't start lining myself in the

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functional track , the Air Force is

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gonna turn its back on . Me know if you

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have time and you have a desire to be

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functional and then leave and don't try

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something , go try something different .

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It won't hurt our Air Force to have

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wing wearers dancing between the two .

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And you need to hear it from me that

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there's no you're you're not gonna be

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frowned upon in the senior years for

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those of you guys are here , right ,

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It's okay . All right , we'll figure it

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out . You're not going to be written

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off the road off the island . Uh We

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have to have smart airmen go to

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different parts of the Air Force , not

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only live in one part of the Air Force .

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Alright . That's the end of our journey .

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But when you're here , when you're the

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CFm where the MfN , when you sit and we

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call the crew executive management

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council , your job becomes figure out

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what is two years to 15 years look like .

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I'm not worried about squad and um

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diese , who's the next instructor ? I'm

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worried about what does R . A . F . F .

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C . Do because something like this is

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coming to him . Yeah , exactly . What

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the hell ? Right . Yeah . Who's

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operating that ? Alright . That's a

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it's a task that's in development ,

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right ? All of our big brains and the

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industry are messing around with this ,

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but that's an organic resupply and

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personal recovery vehicle . Obviously

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there's not gonna be someone flying on

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it . If it's going to pick Jack up who

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is a survivor . That would be goofy

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like hey Jack , I'm here , you get on ,

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I'll stay right , that's not when I ,

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when I say crew this , that's not what

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I mean . But someone even in an

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unmanned state in a remote capacity is

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going to have to integrate this into

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airspace . There are other parts of the

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rescue task force that are flying to

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protect Jack if he's a survivor who's

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gonna do it ? Is it a two T two ? Is

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the one delta seven ? Is it an aviator

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who used to be a rescue airmen on

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sixties or on 60 Gs or W or whatever we

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fly at that point , who also flows over

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to this and this is part of what

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aviation is . I don't know , I'll tell

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you we have a special mission aviator

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in san Antonio dedicated to being part

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of this team now because this looks a

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lot like aviation . It's just not the

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aviation we know today . So I want us

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as a family for those of you who have

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the legs to see this through is where

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are we going ? Right , what does it

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look like for us to be ready ? If I

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threw a bunch of marbles on the floor

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on the table and I said draw circles

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around marbles , you can do it a lot of

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different ways . All the big colored

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circles , all the little colored

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circles , all the clear ones . All the

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marble ones . All the solid color ones .

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All the big circles , little circles ,

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that's what HFCS are , how do we group

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things that look the same . Right and

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feel the same and for Years , probably

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the last 2030 years it was very easy .

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We had an Fsc and that FSC did this on

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the airplane so I can call it flight

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engineer because flight engineer A FsC

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was flight engineer on the airplane but

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it gets a little sporty when the seat

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on the airplane doesn't need you to

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just be flat engineer . It needs you to

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be boom master attendant one off a

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three sensor operator . Right . And KC

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46 is just opening the door to that .

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There are a lot of things on the

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horizon where it's , hey , is that load

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master or is that sensor operator ? Is

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that help the Navy's flying MQ 25 ?

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They're going to feel the MQ 25 . An

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air to air refuel jet powered launch

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off the area . They're gonna use

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warrants sore topic in the Air Force .

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We're not talking about it . They're

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gonna use warrants to fly it . Well ,

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who are we going to use if the K . C .

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Y . Happens And the next unmanned

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tanker hits the Air Force ? If we have

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an unmanned , who's gonna do it ? Is

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that a boom operator job or is it a

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sensor operator job ? It's probably

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both because I would much rather have

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an expert who understands the global

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reach mission . Who are $1000 ? Boom

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operators operate that system before .

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I have some people and I was one of

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those . No , no I was one I love flying

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entry nines but I don't have experience

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in the mobility mission And to say

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you'll just cross trained me well holy .

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So I'll just take the airmen and put in

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what we should do in 1994 . Right ? Or

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should we have a conversation as a

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family of what does the aviator the

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future look like ? And that's what I'm

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asking for you guys to do . We've done

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tons of studies to figure out where do

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we overlap ? We've had competency

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studies , we've had cognitive studies ,

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we've had personality profile studies ,

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right ? All these things I'll tell you

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they come down to these three things or

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these these these items . This is what

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we have in common as aviators and I

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think you guys would agree sure there's

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crew position expertise . You get that

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I . Q . T . You get that at the

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schoolhouse . But as an airman in the

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Air Force , if we can train and build

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these competencies , I don't care what

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airplane I put you on today . I don't

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care . I'll pick every boom operator

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here and drop you off an MQ nine .

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You'll be amazing . We just did an

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experiment . We sent you guys um sensor

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operators , you guys hosted them .

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Right ? Did they catch on fire in the

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airplane ? You can be honest . Okay we

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got a lot of work . We have to figure

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out what is what does it look like If I

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put you in MQ nine , what does it look

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like ? Right ? We , we were gonna have

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to have this conversation . So this

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summer I said summer . Yeah , yeah .

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Alright . We're gonna get together to

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talk about repackaging rfc of what it

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looks like in the future . It's not

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gonna look like it looks today . Just

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accept that it won't , most of us will

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be gone . But we have to start that

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conversation . And the only way I know

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to do that isn't by asking a bunch of

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old bald gray hair chiefs to come

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together and say this is what we need

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to do . We have to do that is to ask

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staff text and masters who are living

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today's mission and dealing with the

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future to come down , gather with us

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and inform these old dudes into debt

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who work in the world , the policy and

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and programming to ask you guys what

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should we look like ? So we're going to

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gather at Fort Worth . We already have

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it out . The invites are with the M . F .

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M . They're gonna be reaching out to

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you real soon . We're gonna gather

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about 250 of us in fort worth and talk

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about this for three days . Uh and

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we're gonna figure out in the meantime

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we were shifting ceo , we are under

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grad school from what it is today . And

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so we call aircrew fundamentals 23 and

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this is a waypoint on a flight plan to

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get us to the future The waypoint

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meeting today we have legacy pipes that

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are all you know very specific to the

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three to the three digit what we call a

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sub I . D . Uh you and I we we probably

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call ourselves are a fsc as boom

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operator . Your Fs is actually see a

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that's why you wear CIA on your arm ,

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right ? Your sub I . D . Is boom

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operated three digits . Today we have a

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career field model that makes three

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digits uh and long pipelines . But when

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we overlay the content , you guys , I

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was the commandant for 2.5 years , we

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teach the same thing in multiple

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courses and because our instructors are

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smart they don't recreate the stuff

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right ? Like if boom operators have to

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learn something about weight and

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balance , they go hey loads , what do

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you guys teach for ? Weight and balance ?

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Give me your slides , give me your

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content , they literally teach the same

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thing different rooms but they're the

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same core part of aviation . We've

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asked our Ceo we to start grouping them

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in some modules . That makes sense that

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our aviators can see we're introducing

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virtuality , you guys are working I .

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TP so is C . O . E . Introducing

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virtuality to those lessons and we're

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gonna build our undergrad school , our

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aircrew fundamentals course to look

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like a module arised composite based

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school . So all of our airmen are given

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these core things that give them that

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sort of match their wings and there'll

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still be some remnants of your three

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digit or your sub I . D . Going forward .

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This happens this january . Ah that's

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why the summer conferences is so

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important . But this is a way point to

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get to wait , let me go back .

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You see the blocks , those are the

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blocks that are converging . I think

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you guys can follow that graphic . This

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HFC 23 is a way point to get to where

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we're going in the future . I don't

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know what future looks like this . Over

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here . I can get us from legacy to HFC

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23 . I need airmen in the field who are

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our experts , our staffs , techs and

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masters of our codes , codes , codes

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whiskey graduates to talk about what

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does the future A FsC structure look

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like notionally up there as presented

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is a calf math soft model . We have

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combat aviators , we have mobility

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aviators , we have uh special missions

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aviators that doesn't mean and and for

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for for transparency doesn't mean that

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I need a boom operator who shows up

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when there's a boom in the next day he

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shows up as an edge . That's not what

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I'm saying . You'll still have to go

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through your form eight and be

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qualified in your airplane but

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graduating at the undergraduate school ,

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you're just grouping some mobility

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aviator and if the Air Force needs you

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to move from mobility aviator on C . 17

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they want to make you a c . One thing

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they have to put you in training for 1

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30 J . Right ? That's the normal model

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but in grouping you were built with

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more in common than different and you

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were given those skill sets that you

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talked about . The ones and zeros and

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why not just put a one out of 300 K . C .

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46 ? Why not just teach you someone out

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for three stuff and call your mobility

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aviator because you're not gonna be the

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only one that gets a network package on

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a 46 right seventeen's . Well at some

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point we're not adding 183 is there ?

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How about I just created a fsc how

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about you guys create an Fsc that makes

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an airman truly more capable than what

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they are today and I'm not sure this is

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an M . C . A . My boss general Costello

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is not happy he's happy but like he got

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chief this looks good . I like the

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future concept but in general

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Costello's mind the deputy Chief of

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staff for operations he wants a load

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master that lands on the C . 17 jumps

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out the back of the ramp , grabs a hose

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that's connected to a bladder hot .

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Refuels an F 35 that just recovered re

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arms that F 35 launches that F 35 jumps

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on board and then goes to sleep .

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That's the load master he wants and I'm

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like sir I got boom operators on 1:35

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that don't want to stop playing on

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their belly , Right ? And their

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resistance to the 46 because the 46 has

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bad press And it does every airplane

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when we buy it has bad press by the way ,

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17's weren't able to leave the flagpole

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when we first bought that thing . Ah ,

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so we have , we have some talks that we

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have some talks . We have some work

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coming up team . These things are

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coming rocket resupply is coming . Is

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that a two T 2 job ? I don't know

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they're coming . And so I'm gonna ask

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you guys to think about , think about

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this And for those of you are attending

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in Dallas bring it on Fort Worth and

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I'm not supposed to mix those up . Uh ,

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bring it . What questions do you all

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have ? I try to go as fast and keep you

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guys awake . Yes sir .

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Question you talked about and 23

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United through the FDA . You see people ,

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we even started any kind of form of KFC ,

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What does that look like going forward ?

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Because right now we don't really have

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a washout of course for safety for the

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air group and we're seeing a lot of

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resources related to line getting

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wasted on students . That nation , that

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means that one of those students and so

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I healthy conversation . You know ,

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every phase of training in our pipeline ,

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every pipe if you will , is designed to

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be a washout course . Right ? Obviously

59:33.120 --> 59:35.231
you want to wash out the higher rates

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on the beginning where training is

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inexpensive than on the end when it's

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very limited resource like flying um

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When we shifted from Eu C . Two A . F .

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C . Uh This is funny the data never

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changed . The attrition rates never

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changed today . They never changed . We

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still treat the same numbers . Uh

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There's an there's an I went through a

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C . As well . Uh There's an illusion

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that we somehow soften the transition

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HFC 23 A . F . C . Even today aircrew

01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:03.000
fundamental today still serves as a

01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:05.167
screening course for attitude aptitude

01:00:05.167 --> 01:00:07.389
and motivation . All courses served for

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that . What I'd ask you on your side if

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you're seeing high attrition that you

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can attribute to to to cognitive skills

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right to to to capability to permit

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capability . And that's a healthy

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conversation for the undergraduate

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school . If you're seeing attrition

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that's associated with bad performance ,

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bad behavior , airsickness , guess what ?

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You're not gonna filter that anywhere

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right ? You won't filter that for the

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combat units either . There's there's

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an oxygen oxygen thief that gets to a

01:00:29.843 --> 01:00:31.843
line unit sometimes too . So if you

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have the data that's that's that's good

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data . The way to inform the school how

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to be more of a filter is to bring that

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data to that that bring it to Dallas

01:00:38.810 --> 01:00:40.810
let's talk about , let's talk about

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what what if everything is flying

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through without any real challenge .

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And then when we don't have it right .

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The last U . n . c . W . that we did

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for you guys was 2018 2017 . Uh That

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data didn't present anything that that

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was concerning . If we're there now

01:00:54.907 --> 01:00:56.907
we're gonna think you booms are are

01:00:56.907 --> 01:00:58.907
scheduled for a one a zero specific

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this fall . That's the environment for

01:01:01.073 --> 01:01:05.040
it . Anything else has left you

01:01:05.040 --> 01:01:07.207
all speechless ? That's what I'm gonna

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talk it up as not that no one has to go

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to the bathroom . Alright . Cool .

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Thanks for your time legit .